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How to Win When You’re Losing
Feature Article from Frank Lepore
Frank Lepore
11/18/2009

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Sometimes it just isn't your week.

Wait. Before I get ahead of myself, a little exposition:

I graduated with a degree in Creative Writing about four months back and I've been having trouble finding a job ever since. With my chosen major, I really have no one to blame but myself for my current lack of employment, but it's still frustrating and more than a little discouraging. If only I had stuck with Computer Science, or had more interest in Engineering or Mathematics, or any field really that lends itself to economic stability. But alas, no.

I found out Friday that two more jobs I had applied for were given to other candidates. Although I was indeed qualified for the positions in question, the employers had decided to go with an applicant that was better suited for the needs of the company. In order to quell my feelings of depression I decided to enter an 8-4 with the last three remaining packs I had to my name in an attempt to win more, lest I dive into my collection and sell singles; something I hate to do, but I'm just not in a position where I'm comfortable to spend money on MTGO currently.

I entered the queue and thought I had crafted a pretty solid mono black deck.

1 Mind Sludge
1 Vampire Hexmage
1 Disfigure
1 Vampire's Bite
1 Bog Tatters
2 Vampire Lacerator
1 Hagra Crocodile
3 Surrakar Marauder
1 Guul Draz Vampire
2 Crypt Ripper
1 Malakir Bloodwitch
17 Swamp
2 Soul Stair Expedition
2 Mindless Null
1 Feast of Blood
1 Blood Seeker
1 Giant Scorpion
1 Trusty Machete

Sideboard
2 Runeflare Trap
1 Grim Discovery
1 Savage Silhouette
1 Desecrated Earth
1 Mountain
1 Molten Ravager
1 Blood Tribute
1 Slaughter Cry
1 Goblin Shortcutter
1 Shieldmate's Blessing
1 Magosi, the Waterveil
1 Sadistic Sacrament
1 Turntimber Grove
1 Tempest Owl
1 Mindless Null
1 Beast Hunt
1 Living Tsunami
2 Nissa's Chosen
1 Bladetusk Boar
1 Hedron Scrabbler

There were some sub-pars, like Mindless Null, but I thought the deck was aggressive enough to at least win a match. This, however, was not the case. Despite only playing seventeen lands I managed to get flooded both games. Game one I keep Vampire Lacerator, Mind Sludge, Soul Stair Expedition, Feast of Blood, and three Swamps. I then draw four more swamps and a Giant Scorpion while he beats me down with a Hedron Scrabbler, a Steppe Lynx, and a Cliff Treader after disfiguring my Lacerator. Game two I'm already on tilt and keep an incredibly sketchy hand of a Mind Null, a Trusty Machete, and five Swamps. I draw a Marauder and a Hexmage, but in the meantime he's played a Vampire Nighthawk. I draw two more Swamps and he plays a Bog Tatters. I can't block the six a turn and he wins a few later. I don't blame anyone, as I should have mulliganed and such is Magic, but it just felt like another thing on top of the pile.

Cassidy sent me a text message and asked if I wanted Chick-Fil-A. I perked up a bit and told her I did. I told her I wanted a chicken salad and a small box of nuggets. I was having a craving for a salad and some honey mustard. When she got home I found out she had instead ordered me a Chicken Salad Sandwich, which she had always known me to get. I wasn't mad in the least – I mean how could I be? The gesture was incredibly sweet. I was just defeated. I couldn't take it. I got somewhat emotional and borrowed Cassidy's shoulder. It was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Eventually I was made to smile and laugh and I shrugged it off as best I could, this sorry state I was in. I got ready for FNM with as much excitement as I could muster to play a UW midrange deck with Emeria that went 4-0 in a MTGO tournament (thanks bolov0). This was the kind of deck I love. I grabbed my bag and took off to my car. I stepped inside, turned the key and…nothing. Yes, akin to my spirits earlier that day, my car battery had also died. Like an actor struggling with a scene, what, I asked, was my motivation?

To my Rescue again, Cassidy let me use her car and I ended up thirty minutes late to Shortstops in order to take sign ups for FNM. This was really a nonissue, however, as I was told I wore my sorrow all over my face. This granted me some leniency it seemed. I went 3-1-1 with the deck, losing to mono-white in the swiss, and found myself playing against Jund in the top 8. This was great. Finally, a break! This deck was disgusting against Jund: two Devout Lightcaster, four White Knight, and four Veldalken Outlander main, as well as four Flashfreeze, two more Devout Lightcasater, and two Celestial Purge after board. This is not including the Paths, Emeria Angel, Baneslayer, and Negates main that are also good against them.

Game one I mull to five and keep a hand with two Island. In the next three cards, I draw two more Islands. There are only four Islands in the deck and I never see a white mana.

Game two I mull to six and keep a two lander with double Devout Lightcaster, and I don't see my third land for another three turns. Needless to say this is more than enough time for Jund to take over.

I loved playing the deck, and I don't necessarily advocate adding a 25th land with twelve two drops, four of which can search for a land, but I did feel like I had to mulligan a lot. I think 25 is the new 24.

After this match, I had to Restrain myself from throwing the deck at the wall. Clearly this is an anger management issue on my part, but really, I felt with the night I was having it might have been warranted. I declined and resigned myself to simply aggressively tossing it into the corner with my bag. After the finals were played out, Sal and I headed back to my house at around 2:30 AM to get some Sleep before the PTQ. This Sleep would only amount to about four or so hours.

The next morning we woke up and our friends Alex and Matt were on their way to pick us up, my car still being out of commission. This took longer than we anticipated however as most of the roads leading to my domicile were blocked off due to the Iron Man World Championship Race. When we were finally on our way, we followed the directions to the letter. Once having gotten a block within our destination we were somewhat vexed to find that the venue was nowhere in sight. We drove around for twenty minutes, in and out of parking lots, in and out of plazas, and nothing. We had no idea where the place was. It was now a mere three minutes until registration closed and a part of me was glad. Maybe we would be destined to head back home and avoid the nightmare that this PTQ would inevitably turn into. Yet, no. Lo and behold, across the busy intersection a sign was visible like a beacon in the night. As it turns out, the real address was 873 Good Homes Road, while the address on the Unity Entertainment homepage said 731 Good Homes Road. I'm sure it comes as no surprise to you that these are two completely different addresses.

Regardless, we were there. We registered, sat down, and got our pools.

1 Brave the Elements
1 Caravan Hurda
1 Cliff Threader
1 Journey to Nowhere
2 Kor Hookmaster
1 Kor Sanctifier
1 Kor Skyfisher
1 Mandiki Shieldmate
1 Narrow Escape
1 Quest for the Holy Relic
1 Shieldmate's Blessing
1 Windborne Charge
1 World Queller

1 Caller of Games
1 Lethargy Trap
1 Paralyzing Grasp
1 Quest for Ancient Secrets
1 Shoal Serpent
1 Trapfinder's Trick
1 Umara Raptor
1 Whiplash Trap
1 Windrider Eel

3 Desecrated Earth
1 Disfigure
1 Feast of Blood
1 Heartstabber Mosquito
1 Mind Sludge
2 Mire Blight
1 Sadictic Sacrement
1 Sorin Markhov
2 Soul Stair Expedition
3 Surrakar Marauder

1 Bladetusk Boar
1 Burst Lightning
1 Elemental Appeal
1 Goblin Ruinblaster
1 Goblin Shortcutter
1 Highland Berserker
1 Inferno Trap
1 Magma Rift
2 Molten Ravager
1 Murasa Pyromancer
1 Quest for Pure Flame
1 Runeflare Trap
1 Shatterskull Giant

1 Baloth Cage Trap
1 Baloth Woodcrasher
1 Greenweaver Druid
3 Khalni Heart Expedition
1 Oran-Rief Recluse
2 Oran-Rief Survivalist
1 Savage Silhouette
1 Tajuru Archer
1 Timbermaw Larva
1 Turntimber Basilisk
2 Zendikar Farguide

1 Adventuring Gear
1 Explorer's Scope
1 Spidersilk Net
1 Stonework Puma
1 Trusty Machete

1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Graypelt Refuge
1 Kabira Crossroads
1 Piranha Marsh
1 Sejiri Refuge
1 Soaring Seacliff
1 Teetering Peaks
2 Turntimber Grove
1 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle

Before opening, I heard Lee Steht say he was going to jokingly place the Sorin Markhov on top of the stack so the recipient would get excited, only to learn the pool was somewhat mediocre. This did indeed work, although I thought the pool seemed decent after having come to the following list:

1 Journey to Nowhere
2 Kor Hookmaster
1 Kor Skyfisher
1 Disfigure
1 Heartstabber Mosquito
1 Mind Sludge
1 Sorin Markhov
1 Soul Stair Expedition
3 Surrakar Marauder
1 Baloth Cage Trap
1 Baloth Woodcrasher
1 Khalni Heart Expedition
1 Oran-Rief Recluse
2 Oran-Rief Survivalist
1 Tajuru Archer
1 Turntimber Basilisk
1 Adventuring Gear
1 Stonework Puma
1 Trusty Machete
1 Graypelt Refuge
7 Forest
3 Plains
7 Swamp

I didn't feel awful about the deck. I thought I had some solid threats, enough small creatures to keep up, and a bomb at the top of my curve.

Round one I played against Scott Kasliner. He's definitely someone you either love or hate, but our games were pretty friendly. He mulled the first game, then kept on six. He got an early Lacerator out and we played dorks back and forth before anything truly exciting happened. He got me down to ten life before Sorin Markhov took over. Game two I get stuck on six land with Heartstabber in hand and a Khalni Heart Expedition with two counters on it. I have a Surrakar Marauder in play with Adventuring Gear on it as well as an Oran-Rief Recluse that killed his Heartstabber last turn. Again, he gets me to ten by way of double Trusty Machete before I finally find my seventh land and play it with him at nine life. It puts the third trigger on my Expedition, and makes my Marauder a 4/3. In response to the trigger from the Adventuring Gear, he attempts to Burst Lightning the Marauder. I then crack the expedition, making the Marauder an 8/7 in the end. I play the Heartstabber and kill his only blocker, then swing for lethal.

1-0

Round two I played against Djamel Medragh. Game one he gets first turn Adventuring Gear, second turn Plated Geopede, then starts to swing for five a turn. Seems good in sealed. He plays other things, like a Zektar Shrine Expedition, but ultimately I can't deal with the second turn 5/5. Game two I feel a little more in the game. I get a board of Oran-Rief Survivalist, and Surrakar Marauder, and Stonework Puma. After getting me on the ropes, he plays Halo Hunter. I'm forced to double block it with the Puma and the Marauder, and he then plays…Vampire Nighthawk. Sigh. I draw…Tajuru Archer. Can anyone spot the irony here? I play the Archer and irrelevantly deal two to the Nighthawk before it eventually kills me.

1-1

Round three I played against Jonathan Lum. I don't remember much of our games except that his deck was again black/red. He beat me game one with Tuktuk Grunts and the like. Game two he quipped about how I would most likely respond with “must be nice” if I saw his hand. He played things like Bloodchief Ascension and Electrolyze and I was never really in it.

1-2 drop.

I thought the deck had enough early pressure to survive, with, what, six two drops? The fact that all three of my games were against players playing black/red is somewhat ridiculous. I know it's hailed as the best color combination, but it makes for such a stagnant limited environment. I thought I really enjoyed this sealed format because of the lack of complete bombs in the rare spot, but I guess they just took out bombs and replaced them with efficient 2/2s for two. Maybe it's not as much fun as I thought. I have to say the most fun I had playing Zendikar sealed so far was getting past the pool with the Sorin Markhov.

My luck, unlike my PTQ, was apparently not over. My friend Alex ended up buying me a draft since he owed me one, and I had a pretty solid deck. It was – you guessed it - black/red. I even managed to pick up a Scalding Tarn. Par for the course my opponent was somewhat of a jerk. After such hits as:

-Missing multiple Blood Seeker triggers.
-Attacking his Blood Seeker into my Plated Geopede. I block, and he thinks they both die.
-Casting Hagra Diabolist and not triggering the life loss with at least one other Ally in play.
-Attempting to Disfigure my Plated Geopede in response to me playing a Scalding Tarn. Myself and the player next to me had to explain how this works to him.

We get to game three. Late in the game I draw a Bloodchief Ascension. He gets to six life and I've been holding a Blazing Torch in hand. I end up drawing Burst Lightning. I nonchalantly play the Blazing Torch and wait a few seconds; he's been listening to head phones the whole time, so I've become accustomed to visual cues rather than verbal. I say, “equip,” and again wait a few seconds. Finally I say, “shoot you, I guess,” again, nonchalantly. He says, “wait, in response to the equip, Disfigure!” Sigh. We call over a judge, and after the initial judge leaves and comes back, he ends up siding with me. My opponent then appeals to the head judge, to which I lose the argument, and my opponent ends up winning the match.

I pointed out to the judge how poor his plays were in the hopes that he would see that a) my opponent was playing sloppy the entire game and b) that I have a familiarity with the rules. In doing so, I told the judge out loud - in front of my opponent, mind you - about my opponent missing the Diabolist trigger. After the head judge rules against me, what happens? Next turn my opponent casts Hagra Diabolist and forgets the trigger again. I couldn't help but laugh.

Ultimately, I had lost again.

I know there was a definite lack of strategic content up there, and for that I apologize. I also know that this may all just sound like a big sob story, but I wanted to make a point. My point was that this is Magic. But more so, this is life. By the end of the day I didn't care anymore that I was doing horrendously, because in the end, was I really? Alex and Matt had also both dropped after unsuccessful records and Sal was X-1. I had friends to hang out with, and friends who were doing well. We all go on tilt, we all have bad beats, and we all have runs where the end never seems to be in sight. I still don't have a job, I'm still nearly broke, and I'm still in a slump regarding my success in the game as of current, but despite all that I had a great time with great friends. When people say they're going to quit the game or stop playing, I simply don't understand it. Sure, I guess people can get tired of it (though I'm not certain), and it can get expensive, but when I pay for a tournament I feel like I'm paying for so much more than the games I play or the cards I receive. Every time there's an event, I always ask my friends to come, even adding, “if you don't want to play you should still come to hang out.”

I guess what I'm getting at is that the game is so much larger than our wins and losses.

I guess I just enjoy the microcosm Magic fashions around the people who play it.

I guess I just love Magic.

Thanks for reading.

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 Bad Luck
 daswookie
New Member
     ( 8 Posts)     11/18/2009 11:21:23 AM 
Sorry to hear youve been having a tough time lately. Nothing makes your heart sink quite as much as new car problems when youre already struggling financially.

I wouldnt sweat the Magic problems. You know youre good at the game so youre just experiencing a downturn that youll eventually play your way out of. Nothing is better than hanging out with friends and Magic is just a great excuse to do just that.

A note on the headphones guy I really think they just need to ban headphones from Magic tournaments. Communication is so important in this game and headphones just interfere with that. Either ban them or just make a blanket decision to side with the person who isnt wearing them during rules disputes much like they do in situations regarding life totals when one person is keeping track on paper and the other is using dice.

 Bad run
 themills
New Member
     ( 1 Posts)     11/18/2009 11:49:28 AM 
Sorry to hear about your bad run. MTG like other card games really does come down to the luck factor of the draw from the deck. Im sure everyone has heard the similarities to poker however you touch on an area that most people overlook, bad runs. There are times where you do everything right and the outcome still does not go into your advantage.

Far as the guys with the headphones.....that is a case where I become extremely precise with every move and ask a one word question, _response_ to establish slow and or sloppy play. We all hate to be that guy however, the guy using the headphones is using that to his advantage to get you off your game so to speak.

One tidbit of advise I can offer is when Im running bad, whether in poker or MTG, I always, always, always analyze my own play. When Im play testing with my buddy or son if I find myself saying _I played that wrong_ or it doesnt feel like I truly got beat I will dig deeper into the problem. Often I find something I missed or misused or just plain could have done better. I can handle being beat by better play. What I cant stand is when I dont bring my best play and beat myself. Being on _tilt_ so to speak.

LOVE the fact you enjoy the game to the point where hanging out is just as good! Speaks miles for your love of the game and is something most of us can relate.

May your draws to monsters and you top deck game after game. Happy hunting!

 
 b00m3r1987
Top-Decker
     ( 329 Posts)     11/18/2009 1:32:08 PM 
i love this article because I can relate to so much in it. Im glad to see there are other players out there like this.

 Jobs and Majors
 anthem
New Member
     ( 4 Posts)     11/18/2009 1:33:00 PM 
I did get a math major and I am still having problems getting a job. The way it looks, I might just have to settle for a temp job at Walmart until I can find a decent job. The big Dilemma is most companies want experience and it seems like 4 years of my life spending way too much money isnt experience. I definitely would have went different with you pool. I would have went red white. Well good luck with everyone.

 pay attention
 dci_71283275 - [Guest]
11/18/2009 2:05:46 PM 
when everything is going against you, its normally because you are swimming upstream so to speak. Try instead to focus your energy on something that will build you up a little more than just cards. If teh other canidates are getting the job, you need to ask yourself why are they better to hire than me? Haircuts, modifying the way we speak, covering tatoos by wearing long sleave shirts in the office are things alot of us have to do to pay the bills man. But spending your time writing tournament reports for the _20.00 or so they pay you probably isnt your best course of action right now. And btw Cassidy sounds like a true friend, those are solid gold my man. I married my best friend and 13 years later we are still going strong. Life is just a game, analyze, make good choices and get the WIN!

 
 EMCF
Card Flipper
     ( 52 Posts)     11/18/2009 2:09:17 PM 
I thought you could respond to a landfall trigger... Obviously you cant respond to the land coming into play - but responding to the Geopede getting its buff seems right to me... Am I wrong here?

 Majors
 squ1sh
Top-Decker
     ( 320 Posts)     11/18/2009 2:40:22 PM 
Im a Comp Sci major at NDSU doing my grad work, and Im in the dumps too. Dont worry about _picking the wrong major_ since Im not exactly happy with where I am at the moment. However, magic does offer me some fun to help shield myself from the annoying world.

In any case, Im playing a variation on your sphinx control deck thats a lot of fun. TEEHEE.

 @EMCF
 Ben.McDole - [Guest]
11/18/2009 3:46:21 PM 
You can respond to the landfall trigger, but not to the act of playing a land. Playing a land is a special action that does not use the stack. The opponent was trying to respond before Frank could even play the land, something which is impossible. On a side note, I was the head judge of this PTQ and this incident is making me seriously consider disallowing head phones at events from here on out, they are just more trouble than theyre worth.

 wow
 lotusborn
Card Flipper
     ( 44 Posts)     11/18/2009 4:36:29 PM 
man i have had the same problem for the past year. the whole no job thing can kill ones moral like it did yours. but cheere up man and do wat i did build your deck ( in my case in a jund player lol) and play til you forget your problems lol

 Best-written article Ive read
 Ayotte
New Member
     ( 4 Posts)     11/18/2009 6:12:11 PM 
Your creative writing degree shows here, at least.

Never read an article that had me so engrossed in the stories and not just the decklists.

 Keep The Faith
 Grant - ifonlyihadthefaith - [Guest]
11/18/2009 6:49:09 PM 
Most if not all of us has been able to relate at one point or another to not only your dismal day but also to your lack of job prospects. In fact, I too chose to pursue a degree in Creative Writing and Ancient Civ. Lol...Right up my alley and super interesting but completely useless in a financial and sadly professional standpoint. I live in Arkansas and both these degrees proved to be Particularly useless to the area. Keep the faith though. I eventually took a job in the insurance industry and have since made it a point to actively seek other magic players in your exact circumstances. The great thing about our community is that the game fosters the type of skills and abilities that employers like myself value. Perhaps theres someone like myself in your area and youve simply yet to make their acquaintance. Dont be afraid to network when you attend PTQs or Regional events. Never know when you might fall into something great ) Best of luck, my friend and thank you for taking the time to write.

 You did it
 Spaniard - [Guest]
11/18/2009 6:55:17 PM 
Hey man, you did it.
Maybe you didnt even noticed, but this is the first article where all people writes to agree with you. No stupid complaints, no talking about the weather, no arguments... Just the truth.
Im also between jobs Im an architect in the time of the biggest building crises... Things are even worse here in Spain, but dont worry man. We can do it, sure we can!!

 Hmm
 Grant - ifonlyihadthefaith - [Guest]
11/18/2009 6:57:11 PM 
Incidentally, Im curious as to your choices in your first pool. I was immediately drawn to your R G pool which seems to have a fair curve and an ally subtheme. W B both seem a bit forced though I admit its hard to pass up on Sorin...nonetheless, I find myself curious as to your reasoning behind the choices you made. Share?

 
 siopao - [Guest]
11/18/2009 7:32:55 PM 
a nice diversion from the standard fare. alot of us players can really resonate with you.

 
 RayRokka - [Guest]
11/18/2009 8:59:15 PM 
Great write up. You are full of WIN in my opinion. This was one of the best articles I have read in years. Everyone has a slump at Magic and you seem to be handling yours well. It is true Magic is so much more than a game, the best friends I have made in my life all came from Magic.

You have the love of a good woman and a great group of friends. What more do you need?

 
 merl - [Guest]
11/19/2009 12:29:15 AM 
I know that you probably dont want to hear this, but it sounds like you should have priorities in your life other than magic.

Have you read _the road less travelled_ by M Scott Peck?

 
 FLepore
New Member
     ( 25 Posts)     11/19/2009 12:59:04 AM 
I want to thank you guys for all the positive feedback. Its funny to hear that Magic shouldnt be a priority in my life since it has been for so long, and I essentially havent spent money on Magic in ages aside from PTQs or other large events. I play at FNM for free since I run the events, and I get paid for the work on top of that. My MODO activity usually pays for itself, and Ive only spent about _11.97 since Zendikars release, yet I have almost full play sets of all the rares from drafts. And to be honest, writing is my passion I enjoy it and hope to get paid for it one day. Writing for TCGPlayer, ABOUT the game I love no less, is an amazing opportunity for me, let alone one of my only sources of income currently. Ill also note that its done mostly at night and not in opposition to searching for jobs.

As far as my pool was concerned, I never claimed to be an expert at Zendikar limited. To be honest, my white seemed really thin. Most of my colors did, but I saw consistency, removal, and bombs in GBw. I regretted not running red instead, and to be honest, the only thing I think that stopped me was the convenience of the Refuge since getting your colors is imperative in this format. I still feel like not running black wasnt an option due to the bombs, removal, and Marauders.

Again, thanks for the kind words, and its nice to know that others can and do relate to me in certain ways.

 
 KaGGo - [Guest]
11/19/2009 2:04:00 AM 
Why didnt you run World Queller in your ptq???

You also had 8 allies, 2 of which deal damage creatures.. sure they spanned 4 colors but they were all single color cost. Not saying allies was the way to go ..it rarely is.. but it might have worked out!?

Your red looked amazing, you could have gone B.R


Sorry about your string of bad luck. Just enjoy it, stay safe and think positive.

 
 Lotus105 - [Guest]
11/19/2009 2:28:54 AM 
I can relate to this article, particularly the last paragraph, on so many levels. Ive always found that just having fun with my friends at magic events is actually superior to competing in the tournament. If Im having an awesome time, I really dont care what my record is.

The odd part is when I just go to a tournament to have fun, I find myself doing much better. Its irony at its worst, but when I dont really care if I win or not I usually end up doing well. Undoubtedly this is a result of not allowing stress to build up in the mind, but I still find it funny every time it rings true.

In regards to your problems, I think the are a whole lot of people can relate to them, involving both magic and _life_. But in the end, friends money, and as long as we keep our head on our shoulders things tend to work themselves out. You have an awesome talent (I envy your writing skills), so just keep on the road, even when it looks like theres no end in sight.

 
 kazbar - [Guest]
11/19/2009 3:55:03 AM 
while sorin did seem very hard to give up, i think that red white with some artifacts was the better option, plenty of decent removal there already and some very good beating and control with the skyfishers, hookmasters and ruinblasters

 Unlucky fella, it happens
 Rayzablue - [Guest]
11/19/2009 11:19:16 PM 
Sorry to hear about the rough luck, Ive been feeling a bit down about Magic in general recently so I can relate there. RW was probably the way to go as both colours seem solid and quite aggressive, but if you open a Sorin its difficult to resist the urge to play it!! :p

To be fair my problems have been with Standard though... me loving control decks + control being practically dead in the format = play a deck I hate or lose. *sigh*

Ah well, well be playing some more casual formats on Sundays now so that should cheer me up a bit and get the creative juices flowing again! :)

 Ummmm.....
 frosty85
New Member
     ( 5 Posts)     11/20/2009 2:34:49 PM 
-Missing multiple Blood Seeker triggers.
(ability is a may)

-Attacking his Blood Seeker into my Plated Geopede. I block, and he thinks they both die.
(lucky you a free lunch)

-Casting Hagra Diabolist and not triggering the life loss with at least one other Ally in play.
(again a _may_ ability trigger also in your favor.)

-Attempting to Disfigure my Plated Geopede in response to me playing a Scalding Tarn. Myself and the player next to me had to explain how this works to him.
(are you sure you understand how it works? he cant respond to the land but he can respond to the trigger so you could play your land and he could say _in response I play burst lighting_ and hed still be in the right)

Sounds like youre butthurt because you lost to a scrub, although he had no business wearing earphones ill give you that much, I mean who does that? Maybe when youre playing poker its okey but theres way too much going on in magic to have no audio input.

 @Frost
 Ben.McDole - [Guest]
11/21/2009 10:06:29 AM 
Frosty: After the ability triggers the active player receives priority. Since Frank was the active player he would still have priority, which means the opponent wasnt in the right, regardless of the card (neither Burst Lightning nor Disfigure).

 ...
 frosty85
New Member
     ( 5 Posts)     11/21/2009 10:38:59 AM 
This is the example i've been going off of.

Q: I am the active player with a Steppe Lynx on the battlefield ready to attack. I play a basic land trigger landfall, my opponent can cast Disfigure in response to landfall trigger because he gets priority to respond after the trigger or does the trigger resolve before I pass priority?

A: The Lynx will trigger, so your opponent will have a chance to Disfigure it before it gets bigger. Nothing can resolve before a player passes priority because the only way for things to resolve is for all players to pass priority in succession

Do you have a link to a definitive wizards ruling or forum post? Id like to post it up on the website for the card shop i frequent to resolve any future disputes

http: forums.mtgsalvation.com showthread.php?t=192514_page=2

 
 FLepore
New Member
     ( 25 Posts)     11/21/2009 11:16:06 AM 
@frosty: My point was that it was an awful play because in response to his Disfigure, I could simply sacrifice the fetch land - since when the landfall ability triggers the Scalding Tarn is in play and not on the stack - giving the Geopede an additional +2 +2.

Also, _losing to a scrub_ was not the problem. I was really just emphasizing his sloppy plays to the judge so that maybe a pattern of sloppy play (which could be attributed to the Blazing Torch play) would seem evident.

 if your losing
 kkwon - [Guest]
11/21/2009 11:46:54 AM 
cast an ultimatum

 Herp Derp
 frosty85
New Member
     ( 5 Posts)     11/21/2009 11:47:23 AM 
Im just saying if I had lost to someone like that I wouldnt publish an article online emphasizing it unless I won. Its like he let you start at 30 you should be grateful.

In competitive magic when you get matches like that you should get down on one knee and thank whatever god you pay tribute to. Let your thundering blows speak for you, he'll either wise up quick or be wiped out.

Again not paying attention to the game and listening to self help tapes or whatever he had coming out of those earphones during the match is extremely bad form but if you had no response to the disfigure the point is probably moot.

 
 FLepore
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     ( 25 Posts)     11/21/2009 12:27:35 PM 
But I did have a response to the Disfigure...sacrificing the fetch land. Also, the point of the article was to candidly express how bad of a run I was on and the story about the draft aided that. I wasnt trying to make myself look like a Magic guru, and I dont care if I made myself _look bad_ by losing. I was trying to tell a story. If you enjoyed it great, if not, thats okay too.

 
 frosty85
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     ( 5 Posts)     11/21/2009 7:41:55 PM 
The paragraph in question makes it sound like you lost because of his questionable use of the disfigure but if you had a fetch to crack the whole time he was giving you another freebie by even casting the disfigure on that creature.

 
 FLepore
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     ( 25 Posts)     11/21/2009 8:54:19 PM 
Which paragraph? Not to argue with you, but there are two instances with Disfigure. One with a plated Geopede. And one with just a goblin that I tried to equip with Blazing Torch. They were separate incidents.

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 YUNGHUNGMONEY - [Guest]
11/24/2009 5:50:31 AM 
_By the end of the day I didnt care anymore that I was doing horrendously, because in the end, was I really?_

I mean....pretty bad? You have no job, a useless degree, probably college loans that will start suffocating you, a broken down car you cant fix and you started weeping when your friend bought you the wrong sandwich. Not to mention you are a bad-mediocre PTQ level Magic player. Just quit now and sell your collection and try to assemble something resembling a life. This article was truly terrible. This isnt an outlet for you to spew your bad beats. Provide relevant content or dont write at all. If I wanted to hear this sort of weak-minded garbage Id just hang out at an FNM.

 lol
  - [Guest]
11/24/2009 7:10:48 AM 
Should come with a disclaimer: Article contains now useful content or just be renamed How to Complain When Youre Losing

 yunghungmoney is da man!
 Turner - [Guest]
11/24/2009 9:33:49 AM 
Hey tcgplayer poster all-star YUNGHUNGMONEY. I wonder if you got that name from being young, hung and having money. I have heard talk of you before on other forums, usually from women who have been seduced by your youth and money only to find out they have the bonus of you being hung as well! I would say you have a lot to offer in the vein of life and writing advice to a person who just graduated from college with a writing degree!

I mean, maybe if Frank follows your infallible wisdom nuggets such as _ur life blowzzzz_ or _Just quit now and sell your collection and try to assemble something resembling a life_, he is sure to become younger, have more money and of course have his manhood enlarged to match yours. I completely understand that you would be very picky about the content you read on a website that you dont pay for. Especially when you are picking on the writer for going through a bad time, shedding some light into the lives of magic players outside of this game that has ensured you say young, hung and rich.

I would go so far as to say I envy you for your jocular post. I wish I could be as witty and scathing in my posts as you can with such brevity and mastery. Please continue to post and improve the quality of this website one article at a time.

Bravo again for yunghungmoney!

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